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	<title>Comments on: Ramy Brooks disqualified from race</title>
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		<title>By: John Suter</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1377</link>
		<dc:creator>John Suter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will send more on this later.  But for now, here are some thoughts. Enclosed is a equal run, equal rest plan for the Iditarod that we have presented for the last 10  years.  What is needed is for the public to be informed about these recommendations and from there to ask the Iditarod Board if they will put them in.  The question is, why not?  Who would not want them in?  If the dogs could speak they would ask for them.  But, they can not speak for them, so it is up to us to speak for them.  If we don't, then who will?

I am willing to give the Iditarod Trail Committee ownership of "Iditarod The Last Great Race" in exchange for the equal run, equal rest recommendations for the dogs on the trail.  It would be a win, win situation for ITC and the sled dogs.

#1. Equal run, equal rest.  If it takes about seven hours to run from check point A to check point B, for example, then check point B would be assigned a seven - hour rest spot for all teams.

A team may take more than seven hours to rest if they choose to, but it would have a minimum of seven hours rest.  If a team took five hours or if a team took ten hours to reach check point B, for example, it would still take seven hours rest there.

#2. Drop a dog, stay an additional two hours of rest at that check point where the dog was dropped.

#3.   Change the 24-hour rest rule to two 12-hour rest spots.  Two 12-hour rest spots are superior to one 24-hour rest spot.  A musher may choose to take the two 12-hour rest spots back to back and make it one 24-hour rest spot.

If a musher came into check point B that had the seven -hour rest period and took one of the 12-hour rest spots there, the musher would take the 7 hours plus 12 hours = 19 hours of rest.

The fastest team would still win the race.  It would give the dogs a minimum rest time instead of running around the clock.

Everyone would have the same minimum rest time as everyone else on the trail.  No one would have the jump on anyone else.

A rested musher can take better care of him or herself and the dogs than a tired one.  There would be some time for mushers to visit the people in the villages and this has not happened for a very long time.

The race today is a pit-stop car race now.  All business.  It does not do much for the host of the villages who put on the race in their area.

John Suter
Past Iditarod Musher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will send more on this later.  But for now, here are some thoughts. Enclosed is a equal run, equal rest plan for the Iditarod that we have presented for the last 10  years.  What is needed is for the public to be informed about these recommendations and from there to ask the Iditarod Board if they will put them in.  The question is, why not?  Who would not want them in?  If the dogs could speak they would ask for them.  But, they can not speak for them, so it is up to us to speak for them.  If we don&#8217;t, then who will?</p>
<p>I am willing to give the Iditarod Trail Committee ownership of &#8220;Iditarod The Last Great Race&#8221; in exchange for the equal run, equal rest recommendations for the dogs on the trail.  It would be a win, win situation for ITC and the sled dogs.</p>
<p>#1. Equal run, equal rest.  If it takes about seven hours to run from check point A to check point B, for example, then check point B would be assigned a seven - hour rest spot for all teams.</p>
<p>A team may take more than seven hours to rest if they choose to, but it would have a minimum of seven hours rest.  If a team took five hours or if a team took ten hours to reach check point B, for example, it would still take seven hours rest there.</p>
<p>#2. Drop a dog, stay an additional two hours of rest at that check point where the dog was dropped.</p>
<p>#3.   Change the 24-hour rest rule to two 12-hour rest spots.  Two 12-hour rest spots are superior to one 24-hour rest spot.  A musher may choose to take the two 12-hour rest spots back to back and make it one 24-hour rest spot.</p>
<p>If a musher came into check point B that had the seven -hour rest period and took one of the 12-hour rest spots there, the musher would take the 7 hours plus 12 hours = 19 hours of rest.</p>
<p>The fastest team would still win the race.  It would give the dogs a minimum rest time instead of running around the clock.</p>
<p>Everyone would have the same minimum rest time as everyone else on the trail.  No one would have the jump on anyone else.</p>
<p>A rested musher can take better care of him or herself and the dogs than a tired one.  There would be some time for mushers to visit the people in the villages and this has not happened for a very long time.</p>
<p>The race today is a pit-stop car race now.  All business.  It does not do much for the host of the villages who put on the race in their area.</p>
<p>John Suter<br />
Past Iditarod Musher</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1376</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 07:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Suter is correct.  The front runners are merciless to their dogs in order to get them to run 150 miles plus per day.  The mushers like to say that you can't force the dogs to run.  Of course you can.  That's exactly what Ramy was doing--forcing his dogs to run.  What would you do--run or get the living tar beat out of you?

Ramy's only misfortune was to get caught.  The other's do it too, to a greater or lesser degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Suter is correct.  The front runners are merciless to their dogs in order to get them to run 150 miles plus per day.  The mushers like to say that you can&#8217;t force the dogs to run.  Of course you can.  That&#8217;s exactly what Ramy was doing&#8211;forcing his dogs to run.  What would you do&#8211;run or get the living tar beat out of you?</p>
<p>Ramy&#8217;s only misfortune was to get caught.  The other&#8217;s do it too, to a greater or lesser degree.</p>
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		<title>By: John Suter</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1374</link>
		<dc:creator>John Suter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 01:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JOHN P. SUTER
P. O. Box 670144
Chugiak, AK  99567-0144
(907) 688-3103
suter@gci.net

June 6, 2007

Dear Editor

The Iditarod Board of Directors has given one of itâ€™s mushers a 2 year ban for spanking his dogs multiple times.  The Iditarod Board of Directors should have given their self a 2 year ban as well because they are just as guilty of the violation.  The board did not take the direct action of spanking the dog team, but they set up the conditions for the event to occur.  They did this by refusing to throttle the raceâ€™s speed by not putting in the badly needed equal run, equal rest recommendations.  There is enormous pressure for these mushers to perform the best that they can.  The results of this is in order to be competitive, mushers now run their dogs teams day and night around the clock.  The mushers who give their dogs teams equal run, equal rest are behind the front of the pack.  Most of them can not afford to keep racing for more than a few years.  This musher did not do anything differently than all of the other top mushers, it is that this musher got caught.  With equal run, equal rest, rested dogs will be able to keep running and rested mushers brains will not be stuck on stupid.

Sincerely,

John Suter
Former 4 time Iditarod finisher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JOHN P. SUTER<br />
P. O. Box 670144<br />
Chugiak, AK  99567-0144<br />
(907) 688-3103<br />
<a href="mailto:suter@gci.net">suter@gci.net</a></p>
<p>June 6, 2007</p>
<p>Dear Editor</p>
<p>The Iditarod Board of Directors has given one of itâ€™s mushers a 2 year ban for spanking his dogs multiple times.  The Iditarod Board of Directors should have given their self a 2 year ban as well because they are just as guilty of the violation.  The board did not take the direct action of spanking the dog team, but they set up the conditions for the event to occur.  They did this by refusing to throttle the raceâ€™s speed by not putting in the badly needed equal run, equal rest recommendations.  There is enormous pressure for these mushers to perform the best that they can.  The results of this is in order to be competitive, mushers now run their dogs teams day and night around the clock.  The mushers who give their dogs teams equal run, equal rest are behind the front of the pack.  Most of them can not afford to keep racing for more than a few years.  This musher did not do anything differently than all of the other top mushers, it is that this musher got caught.  With equal run, equal rest, rested dogs will be able to keep running and rested mushers brains will not be stuck on stupid.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>John Suter<br />
Former 4 time Iditarod finisher.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1372</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you John for speaking up about this incident. I feel that your comments are needed, since you were an Iditarod finisher. so what, in your opinion, can the public do to get the Board of Directors to sit up and take notice that the majority of viewers do not want to abuse to take place. I have to say that it is really sad that these dogs, who run their hearts out for a human being, are mistreated for doing nothing more than listening to their bodies telling them to stop. Is there any sport out there any more where animals are given the respect they deserve? But I am digressing...I would really like to hear any suggestions you may have.

Thanks again,
Heather</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you John for speaking up about this incident. I feel that your comments are needed, since you were an Iditarod finisher. so what, in your opinion, can the public do to get the Board of Directors to sit up and take notice that the majority of viewers do not want to abuse to take place. I have to say that it is really sad that these dogs, who run their hearts out for a human being, are mistreated for doing nothing more than listening to their bodies telling them to stop. Is there any sport out there any more where animals are given the respect they deserve? But I am digressing&#8230;I would really like to hear any suggestions you may have.</p>
<p>Thanks again,<br />
Heather</p>
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		<title>By: John Suter</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1371</link>
		<dc:creator>John Suter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 02:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JOHN P. SUTER
P. O. Box 670144
Chugiak, AK  99567-0144
(907) 688-3103
suter@gci.net


June 3, 2007


 

Dear Editor


The Iditarod Board of Directors has given one of itâ€™s mushers a 2 year ban for spanking his dogs multiple times.  The Iditarod Board of Directors should have given their self a 2 year ban as well because they are just as guilty of the violation.  The board did not take the direct action of spanking the dog team, but they set up the conditions for the event to occur.  They did this by refusing to throttle the raceâ€™s speed by not putting in the badly needed equal run, equal rest recommendations.  There is enormous pressure for these mushers to perform the best that they can.  The results of this is in order to be competitive, mushers now run their dogs teams day and night around the clock.  The mushers who give their dogs teams equal run, equal rest are behind the front of the pack.  Most of them can not afford to keep racing for more than a few years.  This musher did not do anything differently than all of the other top mushers, it is that this musher got caught.  With equal run, equal rest, rested dogs will be able to keep running and rested mushers brains will not be stuck on stupid.

 

Sincerely,

John Suter  Former 4 time Iditarod finisher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JOHN P. SUTER<br />
P. O. Box 670144<br />
Chugiak, AK  99567-0144<br />
(907) 688-3103<br />
<a href="mailto:suter@gci.net">suter@gci.net</a></p>
<p>June 3, 2007</p>
<p>Dear Editor</p>
<p>The Iditarod Board of Directors has given one of itâ€™s mushers a 2 year ban for spanking his dogs multiple times.  The Iditarod Board of Directors should have given their self a 2 year ban as well because they are just as guilty of the violation.  The board did not take the direct action of spanking the dog team, but they set up the conditions for the event to occur.  They did this by refusing to throttle the raceâ€™s speed by not putting in the badly needed equal run, equal rest recommendations.  There is enormous pressure for these mushers to perform the best that they can.  The results of this is in order to be competitive, mushers now run their dogs teams day and night around the clock.  The mushers who give their dogs teams equal run, equal rest are behind the front of the pack.  Most of them can not afford to keep racing for more than a few years.  This musher did not do anything differently than all of the other top mushers, it is that this musher got caught.  With equal run, equal rest, rested dogs will be able to keep running and rested mushers brains will not be stuck on stupid.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>John Suter  Former 4 time Iditarod finisher.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1343</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 16:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He should be disqualified forever!  He does not deserve to have another chance, because once an abuser - always an abuser.  It is obvious he does not do this for the love of dogs and the race - only money.  Please do not let him get away with this, it will only send a bad message to (abusers) in the competition and everywhere.  We have to be firm in all angles of abuse in this world - people and animals.  We can't continue on like this.  I agree with one person's comment about not finding any wrong doing done to one of Brook's dogs who died.  Did they really to a complete investigation?  I think and believe he had something to do with it!  I feel a full investigation should be done and if found guilty of any abuse he should never have the opportunity to race again. We have to stop animal abuse - beginning with this fool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He should be disqualified forever!  He does not deserve to have another chance, because once an abuser - always an abuser.  It is obvious he does not do this for the love of dogs and the race - only money.  Please do not let him get away with this, it will only send a bad message to (abusers) in the competition and everywhere.  We have to be firm in all angles of abuse in this world - people and animals.  We can&#8217;t continue on like this.  I agree with one person&#8217;s comment about not finding any wrong doing done to one of Brook&#8217;s dogs who died.  Did they really to a complete investigation?  I think and believe he had something to do with it!  I feel a full investigation should be done and if found guilty of any abuse he should never have the opportunity to race again. We have to stop animal abuse - beginning with this fool!</p>
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		<title>By: The Authority</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Authority</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 10:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramy Brooks, although I don't know him sounds like just one of the culprits. There are many such as him. I've seen the abuse and it's very sad...  

How can these people expect these dogs to run hundreds of miles all of a sudden when they have been kept on short leashes all year. That's not just abuse.. that's torture!

The race either needs to stop, or else make sure these mushers let their dogs run during the year... and not to be beaten by a stick or whip when they run.. just let them run like free animals. 

These are beautiful, loyal, hard-working creatures that are stretched to their limits each year.  It's abuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramy Brooks, although I don&#8217;t know him sounds like just one of the culprits. There are many such as him. I&#8217;ve seen the abuse and it&#8217;s very sad&#8230;  </p>
<p>How can these people expect these dogs to run hundreds of miles all of a sudden when they have been kept on short leashes all year. That&#8217;s not just abuse.. that&#8217;s torture!</p>
<p>The race either needs to stop, or else make sure these mushers let their dogs run during the year&#8230; and not to be beaten by a stick or whip when they run.. just let them run like free animals. </p>
<p>These are beautiful, loyal, hard-working creatures that are stretched to their limits each year.  It&#8217;s abuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Kitty</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1338</link>
		<dc:creator>Kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 16:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he is found guilty of gross abuse to his animals, then he should not only be banned from the Iditarod and all other races for life, but all face stiff fines and jail time.

There is NO EXCUSE, for beating these beautiful animals.  They give their all in these races, and they know their bodies better than anyone else, and know when they can't go any further.   Yes, they are bred for this, and love to run, but everyone, including sleddogs have their limits just like we do.   How would you feel if you had to run 100 miles without any relief?

I was born and raised in Alaska, and even though I now live in Washington, I get excited every year when this event come around.  

I know some people say it is abuse to "make" this animals do this; but if you have ever been around these type of dogs, especially huskies and Malamutes, you would see they live to run, it is in their blood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he is found guilty of gross abuse to his animals, then he should not only be banned from the Iditarod and all other races for life, but all face stiff fines and jail time.</p>
<p>There is NO EXCUSE, for beating these beautiful animals.  They give their all in these races, and they know their bodies better than anyone else, and know when they can&#8217;t go any further.   Yes, they are bred for this, and love to run, but everyone, including sleddogs have their limits just like we do.   How would you feel if you had to run 100 miles without any relief?</p>
<p>I was born and raised in Alaska, and even though I now live in Washington, I get excited every year when this event come around.  </p>
<p>I know some people say it is abuse to &#8220;make&#8221; this animals do this; but if you have ever been around these type of dogs, especially huskies and Malamutes, you would see they live to run, it is in their blood.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 17:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then why don't they have more check points set up that forces mushers to stop and rest their dogs. I am sure there is a way to time them to make sure the dogs get adequate rest. I ususally enjoy watching the race but after hearing this I don't think I can.  They only show the good portions on TV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then why don&#8217;t they have more check points set up that forces mushers to stop and rest their dogs. I am sure there is a way to time them to make sure the dogs get adequate rest. I ususally enjoy watching the race but after hearing this I don&#8217;t think I can.  They only show the good portions on TV.</p>
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		<title>By: Billdeberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billdeberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 08:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was disqualified after admitting that he hit his dogs with a stick.   The question they are looking at now is should he be banned from racing for one or more years in the future.  A ban from Iditarod would mean being banned from every major race because they all honor Iditarod bans.  So this would really impact his life.  I think being disqualified from this year's race is enough punishment unless they find evidence of really bad abuse beyond hitting them with a stick.

One musher was banned for two years after he was filmed kicking his dogs.  But at that time he could go over and run the Quest so it wasn't as big a deal.   Maybe Ramy deserves a one or two year ban if there is more to this than just swatting them.  One report said his mom came over and helped him get the dogs going- if true that is another rule violation.  He also pulled down a trail marker to swat the dogs- if he didn't put it back up then that is another violation.

A necropsy would show bruising when they strip the skin off- bruises show up under the skin. I wonder how detailed a necropsy they did on the dead dog?  The gross necropsy didn't show much but tissue sampling can show if the dead dog had muscle damage from being overrun- that can kill a dog- lactic acid overwhelms their kidneys. Ramy was running straight through from Koyuk to White Mt- 100 miles.  A lot of mushers took a short break at Elim- maybe Ramy should have too.

You wouldn't see bruising under the fur.  But with a live dog the vets could have possibly felt swelling and found sore spots by palpating the live dogs.  I really doubt he did any serious injury to the dogs though- its usually just a way to scare them into doing what you want unless you pop them on the nose or eye.

It's kind of silly to say all the mushers love their dogs.  They're not children- they're work animals.  I think they like some more than others but when they start trying to quit a musher can develop a distinct dislike for a dog.  Some of the dogs put their whole heart into the race but a lot of them don't.  The ones that work too hard (put their whole heart into it) just get hurt or tired and get dropped.  The best dogs stay enthusiastic but pace themselves.  

The discerning musher can see when the dogs are starting to lose their enthusiasm and starts taking longer breaks and shorter runs until the enthusiasm returns.  That's what Buser and King did this year on the coast.  Other mushers never seem to figure this out and just keep pushing until the dogs go slower and slower and want to quit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was disqualified after admitting that he hit his dogs with a stick.   The question they are looking at now is should he be banned from racing for one or more years in the future.  A ban from Iditarod would mean being banned from every major race because they all honor Iditarod bans.  So this would really impact his life.  I think being disqualified from this year&#8217;s race is enough punishment unless they find evidence of really bad abuse beyond hitting them with a stick.</p>
<p>One musher was banned for two years after he was filmed kicking his dogs.  But at that time he could go over and run the Quest so it wasn&#8217;t as big a deal.   Maybe Ramy deserves a one or two year ban if there is more to this than just swatting them.  One report said his mom came over and helped him get the dogs going- if true that is another rule violation.  He also pulled down a trail marker to swat the dogs- if he didn&#8217;t put it back up then that is another violation.</p>
<p>A necropsy would show bruising when they strip the skin off- bruises show up under the skin. I wonder how detailed a necropsy they did on the dead dog?  The gross necropsy didn&#8217;t show much but tissue sampling can show if the dead dog had muscle damage from being overrun- that can kill a dog- lactic acid overwhelms their kidneys. Ramy was running straight through from Koyuk to White Mt- 100 miles.  A lot of mushers took a short break at Elim- maybe Ramy should have too.</p>
<p>You wouldn&#8217;t see bruising under the fur.  But with a live dog the vets could have possibly felt swelling and found sore spots by palpating the live dogs.  I really doubt he did any serious injury to the dogs though- its usually just a way to scare them into doing what you want unless you pop them on the nose or eye.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of silly to say all the mushers love their dogs.  They&#8217;re not children- they&#8217;re work animals.  I think they like some more than others but when they start trying to quit a musher can develop a distinct dislike for a dog.  Some of the dogs put their whole heart into the race but a lot of them don&#8217;t.  The ones that work too hard (put their whole heart into it) just get hurt or tired and get dropped.  The best dogs stay enthusiastic but pace themselves.  </p>
<p>The discerning musher can see when the dogs are starting to lose their enthusiasm and starts taking longer breaks and shorter runs until the enthusiasm returns.  That&#8217;s what Buser and King did this year on the coast.  Other mushers never seem to figure this out and just keep pushing until the dogs go slower and slower and want to quit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1334</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he has 'admitted' to 'spanking' his dogs, then he should be disqualified. When the vet found no evidence of abuse, what signs were they looking for? I don't imagine that a bruise, from being hit, would be visible would it? Maybe the organizers of the Iditarod need to change some of their rules so that abuser of dogs have a tougher penalty handed out to them. This is an extremely taxing event for both the dogs and the mushers, we really don't need to have the animals abused because their bodies are telling them to slow down. I have to say that I think it is shamefull this happened. I do believe that the mushers truly love their dogs but this isn't the type of treatment they deserve. The dogs put their whole heart into this race, let's make sure they have the same respect as their mushers. What would happen if someone had beaten Ramy Brooks? Would he not want justice? The same should be applied to his dogs....they are one and the same. The only difference is that his dogs are defenseless and it is up to caring and concerned indivuduals to see that they are defended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he has &#8216;admitted&#8217; to &#8217;spanking&#8217; his dogs, then he should be disqualified. When the vet found no evidence of abuse, what signs were they looking for? I don&#8217;t imagine that a bruise, from being hit, would be visible would it? Maybe the organizers of the Iditarod need to change some of their rules so that abuser of dogs have a tougher penalty handed out to them. This is an extremely taxing event for both the dogs and the mushers, we really don&#8217;t need to have the animals abused because their bodies are telling them to slow down. I have to say that I think it is shamefull this happened. I do believe that the mushers truly love their dogs but this isn&#8217;t the type of treatment they deserve. The dogs put their whole heart into this race, let&#8217;s make sure they have the same respect as their mushers. What would happen if someone had beaten Ramy Brooks? Would he not want justice? The same should be applied to his dogs&#8230;.they are one and the same. The only difference is that his dogs are defenseless and it is up to caring and concerned indivuduals to see that they are defended.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1332</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;

Poor Brooks... Not.
He showed one thing alright.. his dogs are smarter than he is.

What part of this is "scolding"?

"Since that time, it has been reported in the media that the extent of Brooksâ€™ abuse to his dogs in Golovin was more than originally confirmed. The teacher is claiming that Brooks punched and kicked each of his dogs when the team stopped outside of the village."

"Ramy has accepted is disqualification from this yearâ€™s race and does not dispute the original story but has not made a comment on the details that came out later."

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<p>Poor Brooks&#8230; Not.<br />
He showed one thing alright.. his dogs are smarter than he is.</p>
<p>What part of this is &#8220;scolding&#8221;?</p>
<p>&#8220;Since that time, it has been reported in the media that the extent of Brooksâ€™ abuse to his dogs in Golovin was more than originally confirmed. The teacher is claiming that Brooks punched and kicked each of his dogs when the team stopped outside of the village.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Ramy has accepted is disqualification from this yearâ€™s race and does not dispute the original story but has not made a comment on the details that came out later.&#8221;</p>
<p>He hasn&#8217;t made a comment on the later details?  I&#8217;m not surprised&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Billdeberg</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1328</link>
		<dc:creator>Billdeberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramy admits "spanking" his dogs with a stick.  Witnesses say they saw him do it.  Can't get much better evidence than that.  Ramy says hitting his dogs with a stick is not abuse.  Some people think it's abuse to even put a dog on chain...  But the Iditarod rules are quite clear on this-

"Rule 37 -- Dog Care:
â€¢ There will be no cruel or inhumane treatment of dogs. Cruel or inhumane treatment involves any
action or inaction, which causes preventable pain or suffering to a dog."

So did hitting the dogs with a stick cause pain or suffering?  Who knows?  Maybe it just scared them.  But apparently it worked cause the dogs eventually got going.

What I don't get with Ramy's story is the part about 2 dogs quitting and holding up the whole team.  He had 10 dogs in the team so why didn't he put the slackers in wheel and let the other 8 drag them on over to White Mt?  Or he could have put the 2 bums in the sledbag and packed them over the easy trail to white Mt.  Unless the two quitters were his only leaders.... 

Or is it possible that the whole team decided it was time for a break.  They were going through a village and often the dogs stop in villages for a break.  So why not just give them a short break and then ask them to continue instead of getting all lathered up swinging a stick around?

BTW-  Is it possible that the dogs quit in Golovin and the one dog died later for the same reason?   being run beyond their ability...
Dogs that are overrun can develop exertional myopathy- muscle damage which produces lactic acid.  This causes cramping which makes the dogs want to stop and sometimes causes kidney failure and death.   Is Iditarod conducting furthur research on the dead dog to see if it had this syndrome called rhabdomyolasis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramy admits &#8220;spanking&#8221; his dogs with a stick.  Witnesses say they saw him do it.  Can&#8217;t get much better evidence than that.  Ramy says hitting his dogs with a stick is not abuse.  Some people think it&#8217;s abuse to even put a dog on chain&#8230;  But the Iditarod rules are quite clear on this-</p>
<p>&#8220;Rule 37 &#8212; Dog Care:<br />
â€¢ There will be no cruel or inhumane treatment of dogs. Cruel or inhumane treatment involves any<br />
action or inaction, which causes preventable pain or suffering to a dog.&#8221;</p>
<p>So did hitting the dogs with a stick cause pain or suffering?  Who knows?  Maybe it just scared them.  But apparently it worked cause the dogs eventually got going.</p>
<p>What I don&#8217;t get with Ramy&#8217;s story is the part about 2 dogs quitting and holding up the whole team.  He had 10 dogs in the team so why didn&#8217;t he put the slackers in wheel and let the other 8 drag them on over to White Mt?  Or he could have put the 2 bums in the sledbag and packed them over the easy trail to white Mt.  Unless the two quitters were his only leaders&#8230;. </p>
<p>Or is it possible that the whole team decided it was time for a break.  They were going through a village and often the dogs stop in villages for a break.  So why not just give them a short break and then ask them to continue instead of getting all lathered up swinging a stick around?</p>
<p>BTW-  Is it possible that the dogs quit in Golovin and the one dog died later for the same reason?   being run beyond their ability&#8230;<br />
Dogs that are overrun can develop exertional myopathy- muscle damage which produces lactic acid.  This causes cramping which makes the dogs want to stop and sometimes causes kidney failure and death.   Is Iditarod conducting furthur research on the dead dog to see if it had this syndrome called rhabdomyolasis?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1325</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 06:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing like convicting someone on sketchy evidence at best!  I for one refuse to believe anything the "sensationalist" media or the psycho's for PETA or HSUS say.  From what I am reading here, welcome to the 16th century!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing like convicting someone on sketchy evidence at best!  I for one refuse to believe anything the &#8220;sensationalist&#8221; media or the psycho&#8217;s for PETA or HSUS say.  From what I am reading here, welcome to the 16th century!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1324</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 02:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Iditarod is abuse. Beating your dogs while you're at it adds insult to injury. When will this stupid pointless event meet it's overdue demise? And don't tell me the dogs "enjoy" it. That's the same excuse people give for making their animals perform against their will and against their wellfare. And yes, Brooks should be banned and made an example of. And for those of you who defend him? If there is a report of animal abuse, chances are it's worse and more frequent than what's being witnessed. And for what, a race? Here's some advice for you Remy, go to the gym and get your pathetic self in shape and do some running or your own you ego manical pig. Too bad I can't be around to give you a smack when you slow down on that treadmill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Iditarod is abuse. Beating your dogs while you&#8217;re at it adds insult to injury. When will this stupid pointless event meet it&#8217;s overdue demise? And don&#8217;t tell me the dogs &#8220;enjoy&#8221; it. That&#8217;s the same excuse people give for making their animals perform against their will and against their wellfare. And yes, Brooks should be banned and made an example of. And for those of you who defend him? If there is a report of animal abuse, chances are it&#8217;s worse and more frequent than what&#8217;s being witnessed. And for what, a race? Here&#8217;s some advice for you Remy, go to the gym and get your pathetic self in shape and do some running or your own you ego manical pig. Too bad I can&#8217;t be around to give you a smack when you slow down on that treadmill.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1323</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is incredibly distressing to read about not only the events that occured but also the lack of action that was taken afterward. I am outraged by those of you supporting this Neanderthal! Are you really that indifferent to animal abuse? Obviously the punishment was unfitting of the crime and it sickens me to think that this pathetic excuse for a man wil be allowed to continue racing and therefore continue abusing animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is incredibly distressing to read about not only the events that occured but also the lack of action that was taken afterward. I am outraged by those of you supporting this Neanderthal! Are you really that indifferent to animal abuse? Obviously the punishment was unfitting of the crime and it sickens me to think that this pathetic excuse for a man wil be allowed to continue racing and therefore continue abusing animals.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb S</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1322</link>
		<dc:creator>Barb S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Key word here "ADMITTING" - Brooks admitted himself of physical force.

. . .Brooks was disqualified from this yearâ€™s race after
admitting he â€œspankedâ€ his dogs with a wooden trail
marker after two refused to get up and run .. .. 

That is in itself is grounds for punishment. If the severity of it proves true, jail time and fines are in order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Key word here &#8220;ADMITTING&#8221; - Brooks admitted himself of physical force.</p>
<p>. . .Brooks was disqualified from this yearâ€™s race after<br />
admitting he â€œspankedâ€ his dogs with a wooden trail<br />
marker after two refused to get up and run .. .. </p>
<p>That is in itself is grounds for punishment. If the severity of it proves true, jail time and fines are in order.</p>
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		<title>By: miggs</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1321</link>
		<dc:creator>miggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what's a "descrase"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s a &#8220;descrase&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1320</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy is obviously no stranger to how the media works.  He could have paid any friend of his, who is a Vet. to write up such a glowing report of his dogs (re. the report link above).  And I'm certain that he's attempted to take every precaution to spin things to protect his bread &#38; butter. Hearing about this happening has sickened me.  I hope he gets punished to the full extent of the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy is obviously no stranger to how the media works.  He could have paid any friend of his, who is a Vet. to write up such a glowing report of his dogs (re. the report link above).  And I&#8217;m certain that he&#8217;s attempted to take every precaution to spin things to protect his bread &amp; butter. Hearing about this happening has sickened me.  I hope he gets punished to the full extent of the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1319</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope one day when Brooks is tired, cold and hungry someone three times his size beats the *^$&#38; out of him. Only then will the "rules and regulations of the sport and community" be fair. We would not allow it to happen to a human - why do we allow it to happen to dogs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope one day when Brooks is tired, cold and hungry someone three times his size beats the *^$&amp; out of him. Only then will the &#8220;rules and regulations of the sport and community&#8221; be fair. We would not allow it to happen to a human - why do we allow it to happen to dogs?</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1318</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 03:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Kate - the dog that died?
What about the fact that Mr. Brooks apologized for the 'unfortunate incident' 
Animal abusers are the lowest form of scum and it disgusts me that this happened.  
They have no love of animals to put them though this - to beat exhausted dogs is sickening.  He shouldn't even own a goldfish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Kate - the dog that died?<br />
What about the fact that Mr. Brooks apologized for the &#8216;unfortunate incident&#8217;<br />
Animal abusers are the lowest form of scum and it disgusts me that this happened.<br />
They have no love of animals to put them though this - to beat exhausted dogs is sickening.  He shouldn&#8217;t even own a goldfish.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-1317</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hasn't this guy won enough Iditarods to satisfy his ego? There's no excuse for pushing his dogs to the brink of collapse, then beating them. Dogs have far greater instincts than humans. They knew they were exhausted and wouldn't be able to pull that sled.

What a pitiful character you are, Ramy Brooks. Be a man and confess to what you did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasn&#8217;t this guy won enough Iditarods to satisfy his ego? There&#8217;s no excuse for pushing his dogs to the brink of collapse, then beating them. Dogs have far greater instincts than humans. They knew they were exhausted and wouldn&#8217;t be able to pull that sled.</p>
<p>What a pitiful character you are, Ramy Brooks. Be a man and confess to what you did.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-922</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 10:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Passing judgement on Ramy without knowing the facts is a rather unfortunate deal for every one involved.  It shows the spite of many people.  You point fingers at yourselves.  Humans often bite loudest and most aggressively towards situations they best relate with or are guilty of.  I do not condone any form of animal abuse in sport or behind closed doors in ones home.  I do understand animals/pets requires a level of handling that keeps them under control.  This does not excuse for rough handling.  The humans need to treat each other with a little more respect here.  If you are looking to fight and make big noise go some where else.  If you are looking for an example to be made of Ramy then also go some where else with your emotional cause.  Ramy is being delt with by the system that is in place.  He will not be shown favoritism.  He will be handled according to the rules and regulations of the sport and community.  Show support for your stand by your accurate knowledge of the situation and not assumptions.  Ignorance is not bliss but a sign of ones inability to collect, process and understand knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Passing judgement on Ramy without knowing the facts is a rather unfortunate deal for every one involved.  It shows the spite of many people.  You point fingers at yourselves.  Humans often bite loudest and most aggressively towards situations they best relate with or are guilty of.  I do not condone any form of animal abuse in sport or behind closed doors in ones home.  I do understand animals/pets requires a level of handling that keeps them under control.  This does not excuse for rough handling.  The humans need to treat each other with a little more respect here.  If you are looking to fight and make big noise go some where else.  If you are looking for an example to be made of Ramy then also go some where else with your emotional cause.  Ramy is being delt with by the system that is in place.  He will not be shown favoritism.  He will be handled according to the rules and regulations of the sport and community.  Show support for your stand by your accurate knowledge of the situation and not assumptions.  Ignorance is not bliss but a sign of ones inability to collect, process and understand knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Harv</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-901</link>
		<dc:creator>Harv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 02:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's unfortunate what has happened to Ramy for loosing a dog, perhaps his actions justifies disqualifacation but not banned for life. Ramy represents more than a man who mushes dogs, to the village communitys of Alaska he's sending a message of hope for thousand of Alaskan Natives that can overe come abuse in which is so prefound in this beutiful state. Thank you Ramy for showing us the light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s unfortunate what has happened to Ramy for loosing a dog, perhaps his actions justifies disqualifacation but not banned for life. Ramy represents more than a man who mushes dogs, to the village communitys of Alaska he&#8217;s sending a message of hope for thousand of Alaskan Natives that can overe come abuse in which is so prefound in this beutiful state. Thank you Ramy for showing us the light.</p>
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		<title>By: matthew guyski</title>
		<link>http://iditarod.aprn.org/2007/03/18/ramy-brooks-disqualified-from-race/#comment-606</link>
		<dc:creator>matthew guyski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>get a freakin life</description>
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